On Friday, July 28, Perth outfit Make Them Suffer let loose their third full-length album Worlds Apart. The album is a considerable departure for the band, who are making a habit of shaking things up with each record, rather than coasting through like so any of their peers.

For Full Length: The Third, Make Them Suffer stepped even further away from the Deathcore sensibilities that fuelled their debut album Neverbloom, and channeled even more focus into the ambience, and atmospheric delights that populated their sophomore, 2015’s Old Souls; Worlds Apart, as it were, by both name and nature.

Having seen what the band achieved with Old Souls, that is, critical acclaim as well as tours for South East Asia to Eastern Europe and everywhere else in between, those who consider themselves peers of the band feel an all too familiar chill at the thought of what Make Them Suffer will achieve with Worlds Apart.

We caught up with the bands vocalist Sean Harmanis ahead of the release date to learn more about the new album.

The Neversphere: Your third full-length Worlds Apart is going to be in the hands of fans in a matter of hours, really. How does it feel to be part of Make Them Suffer right now?
Sean: I’m just excited for people to hear the record. Picking singles for this record was just so difficult. I felt like every track was special in its own way. Listening to the album, it’s more about how it works as a complete package rather than each individual song. It’s about how each song serves the overall record. I’m confident about it. After we do a record I like to take some time and listen to it, see the positives and negatives, what we can improve on and what we did well; I’m yet to put the record down. So, I hope other people take to it like that, and it sticks in their stereos for some time.
The Neversphere: Looking through your crazy schedule, it’s just tour after tour after festival after tour…When did you find the time to write a new album over the past two years?
Sean: We were writing bits and pieces and riffs on tour; variations of riffs that Nick [McLernon] had been sitting on for some time. After the Never Say Die tour in Europe last November, we really sat down and thought ‘Ok, it’s crunch time now, let’s get to work.’ So, everyone hammered out as much as they could. We got it done in about two or three months, with putting in the final touches as well as tracking and recording. It was difficult finding the time but we’re all on the same wave length now; this is it, this is what we want to do…So everyone gave it 100%.
The Neversphere: There’s a lot of talk from you guys about the desire to shake things up for album three, and embark on a new musical journey. So many people were loving what you were doing, you would have been forgiven for steading the course. What made you want to do the exact opposite?
Sean: I don’t think many of us listen to a whole lot of Deathcore, and stuff like that these days – I don’t think I listen to any Deathcore at the moment. Our previous album Old Souls was a step away from what Neverbloom was, this is a step even further once again. We did a lot of experimenting with Old Souls, and worked out what we liked in production. Then from there we did Ether and things became really clear after that. It was a risk putting out that song but people really took to it. So, we all got excited about this new sound which I think is original. We’re all excited about being able to branch out and do something different…

It still has quite a bit of musical integrity; I don’t see it as selling out, it’s just its own thing. We got to that place through experimentation, and writing stuff that’s more in line with our own personal influences, and what music we enjoy listening to.
The Neversphere: Ether was a big moment for all of us. I clearly remember a month-long period of my life where I woke up to that song every morning, it was truly all over the airwaves. Did you realise you were sitting on such a hit?
Sean: Obviously, music is our life so we listen to a lot of it. We knew there would be fans of the older stuff that wouldn’t take to the new sound on Ether but at the same time, we were able to look at the song analytically and go ‘Well, I think this is a good song, not everyone is going to like it but we’re quietly confident.’ You’re your own worst critic, so at the end of the day if we think it’s a great song, it might be successful!
The Neversphere: It must have been really rewarding to see your gut feeling reaffirmed on such a big scale!
Sean: My philosophy about when the best music comes together is that you’ll come up with a part and it sounds almost as though you’ve heard it before in the song. It comes so naturally that it serves the song in such a way, it feels like it’s already part of the song. There were so many moments like that where things just seemed to come together in a big way on Worlds Apart. There were a lot of moments like that for us.

Ether gave us quite a bit of confidence in that sense. Previously, thought more about what other people thought about it, and delved quite deep into that way of thinking. We took such a leap of faith on Ether, so for people to respond well to that, it gave us confidence in our own judgement, and musical analysis. It was a huge step forward and confidence booster for us.

The Neversphere: I read something you said about Old Souls being the beginning of the band, and the music you wanted to make. Do you feel as though Worlds Apart is entirely the music you want to make, or are you still progressing to get there?
Sean: Old Souls was the beginning of us taking it seriously, in the sense of touring and stuff like that. Neverbloom is still a great album and one of our best as well. I think we’ve surpassed Neverbloom with Worlds Apart which I’m super stoked about. We’re always going to be changing things and come up with new sounds. We don’t think of Worlds Apart as an evolution or progression, but rather as its own piece of art. Its own album. Old Souls has this haunted house type vibe, then Neverbloom is brutal with lots of delicate piano parts over the top. This is something else, from another world.

With each album, we want to reinvent ourselves, that’s the point we’re at now. We’re always going to be experimenting and pushing our boundaries. At the end of the day, if it comes naturally that’s what we’re going to go with and that’s what happened with this album.
The Neversphere: Once it’s out, you’re going to be taking the album on the road for a headline run, how are the new tracks translating live?
Sean: We haven’t played any of the tracks live but from what we’ve been doing in the jam studio, they’re super fun to play. Obviously, we’re excited to bring new songs into the set, I’m sure you can imagine it gets pretty bland playing the same setlist for years. We’ve been playing Weeping Wastelands since 2010 which is pretty crazy. It’s going to be an awesome vibe; a different vibe. So many people have taken to the new sound in such a positive way, it’s going to be such a positive atmosphere.

We’re bringing Alpha Wolf, an Australian band who just put out their new record Mono, and then Wage War from The States who I just happened to come across the music video for their song Stitch. It’s this nu-metal throwback; The production and just the song quality in general…we had to get this band on tour. I didn’t think we’d be able to land them as support, but we did! I’m excited…

…I think a lot of people are excited.

Make Them Suffer ‘Worlds Apart’ National Tour
With Wage War and Alpha Wolf
Tickets on sale now

Friday, September 15*
Enigma Bar, Adelaide
Tickets: Moshtix

Saturday, September 16
Max Watt’s, Melbourne
Tickets: Oztix

Wednesday, September 20
The Basement, Canberra
Tickets: Oztix

Thursday, September 21
Cambridge Hotel, Newcastle
Tickets: Ticketbooth

Friday, September 22
The Brightside, Brisbane
Tickets: Oztix

Saturday, September 23
Oxford Art Factory, Sydney
Tickets: Moshtix

Sunday, September 24**
Rosemount Hotel, Perth
Tickets: Oztix

* Wage War not appearing
** Alpha Wolf not appearing